what did scott say about death of the family? i never rly understood
scott snyder had his own panel at boston comic con (a very intimate one!) that I went to since I missed the general batman panel on friday and one of the things he talked about concerning batman was his approach to writing death in the family. he said the way he writes batman is first by exploring a fear that he identifies with since this was a joker-centric story and joker is all about revealing your biggest fears and what scott settled on was this fear of dying, of aging, and joker’s whole message to batman in death of the family was that batman needs him, batman needs all his rogues, because without them batman would not have this legendary immortality, and if batman just let go of all his anchors ie his family then batman can live forever in infamy with the joker and the rogues and idk man the way he explained it is much better like he gets so excited and detailed and the way he so earnestly dives into his themes is soooo endearing and I totally recommend watching the panel here he’s awesome :)
I wanted to come up with my own question just to get him gushing about dick grayson but I got shy and I couldn’t think of a decent question that didn’t amount to shamelessly asking something like SCOTT PLS GRATUITOUSLY RANT ABOUT MY FAVE FOR THE REST OF THE HOUR THX lmao
Hi, Big fan of your blog! I'm trying to get back into comics, specifically Dick Grayson's story, and I'm really overwhelmed with where to start after the new 52. Can you point me towards a resource? Last thing I read was "Battle for the Cowl" I'm not sure what's going on with his story now (I guess his second series was cancelled this year?) and would really like to catch up on his recent history. Any story arcs that you recommend? Thank you. :)
omg no wonder you were turned off to comics if the last thing you read was battle for the cowl ;)
recent history for nightwing includes the rebooted nightwing volume 2. my advice is don’t bother as all the arcs are forgettable. instead pick up where you left off. after battle for the cowl, read Batman #687 which sets up Dick getting the cowl way better than bftc ever could. Then there was Batman And Robin volume 1 which is AMAZING. just read it until the end. eventually it becomes Batman and Robin volume 2 and I guuuesss that’s good too but Bruce comes back as Batman and it’s not nearly as fun but the art is good and damian has a big round head.
Also read Detective Comics: The Black Mirror by Scott Snyder!!!! ITS SO GOOD def my favorite dick as batman story. Then there are Batman: Streets of Gotham #1-14, Batman: Blackest Night, Batman: Gates of Gotham and some off issues from other series where Dick appears as Batman like Power Girl #16-17 and Booster Gold #21-26 and various issues of Batman Inc and Red Robin (stop after issue #15 or so, it’s all downhill after chris yost leaves tbh) and Batgirl volume 2 which are worth the full read on their own
And that should catch you up on what Dick’s been up to! But then the reboot happens and who cares it mostly sucks/is boring anyway except for Snyder and Morrison’s stuff. Skip Nightwing, go into my forever evil tag to get the most important/most homoerotic parts of that series that leads up to Dick’s new title and then just pick up Grayson #1. It’s fun and the art is good and Dick is the Black Widow of the DCU :)
How protective is Nightwing of the other robins?
VERY so don’t mess with his little brothers
and nightwing would be more protective of his lil sis but lbr cass doesn’t need it
Hello. I have a really stupid question, but what is spiral ?I know it's a secret agency but what is their purpose and why are they a threat ?
from my understanding, spyral an international secret spy organization like SHIELD. Kathy Kane, aka original Batwoman (lol I said batman at first oops…) is in charge so she’s like the Nick Fury. And their purpose is… um haha spying and taking down ppl they consider threats to the world and other various espionage type responsibilities? idk tbh I should probably read those issues of Batman Inc. But yeah, I don’t think they are a threat but they’re definitely operating in a morally grey area half the time. so that’ll be some conflict~ for Dick come Grayson I’m sure
With all the animated incarnations of Dick, which voice do you enjoy best? And if they were to actually give him lines in the next arkham game, who do you think would be best?
I’ll always love the classic batman the animated series voice by Loren Lester the best since that’s what got me into fandom to begin with. But I guess if I had to choose a more recent voice, I’d choose jesse mccartney. I loved his lil robin.
hmm idk whose voice I’d choose for the game though, maybe tyler posey? lol I’m trying to think of someone who can go from pun filled earnest babe to tough vigilante and tyler comes to mind.
Dick has gotten minor parts in both Beneath the Hood and Son of Batman. What comic story would you like to see adapted to video that focuses on Dick?
probably robin: year one or batman: year three or judas contract (but that’s more teen titan focus) and I guess I can accept nightwing: year one if they include more teen titans and less dick grayson making eyes at babs and nearly cheating on his gf smh
soooo how do you feel about this New 52 disaster with him becoming.. essentially Winter Soldier with guns and everything.. ugh
no he’s becoming black widow without boobs why isn’t anyone making the right comparisons here ;)
I’m excited for it! or as excited as I can be for a book that’s set in the inept clusterfuck that is the rebooted dcu. idc about the gun issue as much as apparently everyone does I just care more about characterization and fun stories. I’m happy to see helena again but sad that it’s not cass cain becoming dick grayson’s partner lol of course typical me.
it helps that the creative team seem so cool and they won me over with these quotes from their newsarama interview:
At heart, Dick is always going to be that happy, bouncy kid, and we kind of played with the idea that Dick is sort of a rock. He’s not really conflicted; he doesn’t really worry about his “dark side.” Dick is a good guy. He doesn’t have a dark side to him. He does the right thing.
and of course bc I’m predictable….
[Spyral] seemed a unique fit for Dick, because their basis is this idea of manipulation and getting other people to do what they want. Dick is so good at that — he’s s good at seducing people. So it seemed like it would create a lot of conflict with him, in terms of their seduction powers and his own.
Dick is a sexy character, and this is going to be a sexy book. So we’re going to play a lot with that image of him as irresistible — how he uses people with that, and how people use him with it.
;DD bring on july
hey umm i was wondering should I read Batman: Year 3 or Batman: Dark Victory if I wanna find out more about dick's origins?
BOTH ARE GREAT but dark victory as a whole should be preceded by a batman: long halloween read if you really want to get the full story. I prefer batman: year 3 though just because it’s a beautiful classic and focuses more on dick than dark victory does. BUT the tim sale dick is soooooo cute and little so yeah read both.
what do you think about the gun in Grayson? im personally kinda pissed people are so judgmental over it; i won't judge until it actually comes out, but i just thought, since you read a substantial amount of pre-52 dick comics, what your opinion was?
idc about the gun lol people are putting way too much stock into that. it’s just a cover and anyway dick’s a professional who was raised by batman and is a former cop, I’m p sure he knows how to shoot without killing. I’m more mad about the hair cut!!! where are people’s priorities smh we should be rioting in the streets outside of dc’s offices until they give my boy back his pretty locks
how do you feel about the new dick grayson comic?
I’m cautiously excited! I’m not getting my hopes up too high bc I’ve been burned by DC before when I’ve done that but for now, I think this is a fun direction. Hopefully. Maybe. The thought of Dick being DC’s Black Widow is hot in any case lmao.
Dick's New 52 Robin suit isn't ugly! It's one of the better suits of the New 52!
better compared to the other redesigns of the new 52 but A HIDEOUS BLASPHEMOUS ABOMINATION compared to this iconic masterpiece of a costume
How are you dealing with the news of our beloved Boy Wonder?
sad that the nightwing title is getting cancelled in april bc there’s so many great potential stories but I’m still hopeful that dick grayson might live? lol maybe it’s misplaced hope bc DC sucks and you can’t trust them. they really dug Dick into a hole. even if he does live, everyone knows his superhero identity. it makes things impossible for him to continue. and the dyeing his hair blonde theory is sooo dumb that it makes me think that’s DC’s actual solution to their fucking Dick Grayson over. smh @ everything that company is doing to my favorite characters rn.
but I AM excited about scott snyder’s maybe possibly future nightwing in batman #28 I MEAN LOOK AT HER
PRAYER CIRCLE THAT IT’S CASSANDRA CAIN WITH A COOL MOHAWK even tho I know logically that it’s scott snyder’s unnecessary and boring ass OC harper row bUT I CAN HOPE THAT IT’S MAYBE CASS I HAVE A MONTH TO HOPE OK MAYBE IF I HOPE HARD ENOUGH…. lol. if anyone should be the new nightwing it should be nightwing’s sister come on dc cass cain for nightwing!!!! sigh but tbh I’m bracing myself to be pissed when this not-cass rando no one cares about becomes a permanent nightwing who acts more like a replacement robin ugh.
What are your thought of the Dixon run?
It was solid. Dixon always managed to make his basic, formulaic plot lines engaging enough to entertain me at just above the bare bones level haha. It was never anything omg wow amazing. Actually his one shot issues were much better than his drawn out arcs. Like, Nightwing #25 (train surfing with robin), Nightwing #33 (? or 31? idk the one where Superman comes to check on Dick), and Nightwing #52 (Catwoman says what up and they make out) are still some of my favorite Nightwing issues of the entire run so haha so he did something right. And he managed to get me invested in Dick’s background cast, in Bludhaven, and some of the villains were super cool, especially that red ribbon woman with all the bondage inspired images lol. And he gave us Officer Grayson! The only thing I really, really hated was how Dixon all but ignored the titans and distanced Dick from that part of his life which was SUCH A HUGE PART LIKE THOSE ARE HIS BFFS DUDE THEY ARE THE REASON HE BECAME NIGHTWING but yeah. Too bad Dixon revealed himself to be an ignorant homophobe whomp whomp.
have you heard the news higgins is leaving nightwing starting from april? what do you expect from the new creative team?
I mostly hope there even IS a new creative team bc these nightwing death rumors will worry me until Forever Evil is over when I know 100% for sure Dick will be okay.
anyway, here’s what I expect:
- mediocre to bad writing
- decent art with the occasional GAG WHY brett booth type fill in
- circus plot lines even tho who fucking CARES we get it he used to be an acrobat MOVE ON (take a shot if there are my parents are dead flashbacks)
- an elementary, basic, wikipedia level understanding of Dick as character, where the writer ignores Dick’s most beloved traits like his hope, mentorship, inclination to lead and to lead effectively, charm, earnest desire to do the right thing for the sake of doing the right thing and not bc he’s haunted by and hung up on his parents’ death when actually no not at all not even a lil bit he got over it why can’t you, etc.
- underdeveloped and boring supporting cast thanks to the writer’s lazy excuse for world building
- a civilian love interest who either gets fridged or is revealed to be a villain surprise surprise (take a shot if she’s a redhead)
- a very alienated dick grayson with no friends, despite the fact that he’s the most popular and well loved person in the dcu after Superman
- continuity fuck ups which isn’t the writer’s fault, it’s DC’s, but it still pisses me off (take a shot when you twitch @ ‘4 robins in 5 years’)
- Dick being an inept pathetic flop for half his own series in order to build up a shitty C-list villain even tho the dude was BATMAN and was amazing at it
- little to no mention of any of the titans even Starfire even though they were integral to Dick’s identity and growth as a hero
- little to no mention of batfam members who aren’t Babs, Bruce or Alfred even though Damian died like, a month ago in canon
- cheap humor, not enough puns, angry edgy monologue, dark themes that are boring pathetic attempts to mimic the perfection that was Scott Snyder’s The Black Mirror, bad editing, butchering the ICONIC discowing and robin costumes, downplaying dick’s detective and tech skills even tho (say it with me) he was BATMAN, boring formulaic plotlines, gratuitous butt shots but somehow not /enough/ gratuitous butt shots
- and overall fucking up
LOL AS YOU CAN TELL, MY EXPECTATIONS ARE VERY LOW I really just expect Nightwing’s new arcs of the reboot to be as boring as his past arcs have been. But I’ll take a shot when DC nevertheless still manages to disappoint and disgust me even with my very low expectations.
I've been following you for a while now because i've only ever read manga, but i loved dcau like my own family, and dick was my favorite character. I decided to try to get into comics with the 52, but, i should have listened to you. It has no heart.
"no heart" is the best and most succinct description of the new 52.